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Fox News’ Racist Comments About Whitney Houston’s Death Are “Disappeared”

To me, those comments by Fox News readers on Whitney Houston’s death were among the most horrific racist rhetoric that I have ever seen…

Little Green Footballs – Charles Johnson

Here’s a great post at Balloon Juice by “Soonergrunt,” reacting to our post Sunday about Fox News commenters and their ugly racism: Why We Fight.

This is Why We Fight. This is the nature of the opposition. I live amongst these people here in what they proudly refer to as “the buckle of the bible belt” and I’m here to tell you that John’s post of last week was right on the money. You need to read their sites—Fox News, Free Republic,, Michelle Malkin’s site, and others. See what they say to each other when they think they aren’t being watched. The palpable hatred and violent fantasies will make you sick, but you need to know what they want, and you need to keep seeing it in their own words. It’s one thing to say “we read them so you don’t have to” but it’s entirely another to make you all see that you do, in fact, need to. In a few days after this thread is dead, some conservatives will post here claiming that it’s all projection and fantasy, just like they did with John’s post last week. None of that will change a thing. If you’ve ever wondered why I dump shit all over the sorry-assed conservatrolls we have here, it’s because there is no fundamental difference between them and the people quoted above. Their world is the world that our little trolls would make, and people such as they deserve only contempt.

Lest you or anyone accuse me of nitpicking, I am specifically calling out the commenters on those sites. But I’ll note that there’s a reason that racists and bigots frequent sites like Michelle Malkin’s site (which is actually pretty ironic) and Freeperland and Fox.

If you love this country, you need to know and you need to fight for it. If you want a better future for your children, you need to know and you need to fight for it.

Well said. This is why I post these excerpts; not because I enjoy reading this ugly garbage, but because it needs to be exposed. One reason why it’s gotten so incredibly horrifying to read comments at right wing sites is because nobody holds these people accountable. In some cases, site owners are just tolerating this sickening racial hatred, but in many others they’re absolutely doing their best to incite it.

Meanwhile, I received at least a dozen tweets and emails from right wingers claiming that I had faked the post, because they couldn’t see any comments on that Fox News thread.

I know it won’t make even a tiny dent in the right’s armor of denial, but here are a couple of screenshots showing that yes … there are comments for that article. Since the Fox News site uses Javascript to display the comments, it’s possible that people who can’t see them are using incompatible browsers or some sort of extension that’s blocking them.

The Right’s One Big Happy Mix of Ignorance

As usual, Mario Piperni is spot on…

Mario Piperni

Balloon Juice’s mistermix

“…conservatives are allergic to facts, they do love anecdotes. Nothing disproves years of global warming research like a cold day in July, and food stamps are a waste of money because some guy somewhere traded them for a flat-screen TV. As soon as a conservative pundit has found one counterexample, he’s done all the research he’ll ever need.”

Isn’t that the truth.  I’ve had my share of discussions with people from the right who believe that if they could show a single example that proves my position to not be all encompassing, then they’ve won the argument.  Dumb.  It reminds me of a college acquaintance who once argued that seat belt laws were unnecessary and an infringement on his rights and freedoms.  He ‘bulletproofed’ his position by pointing out that he had been driving for years without a seat belt and – here it comes – was never injured.   Ok.

I can already hear wingnuts screaming out that libs do the same sort of thing.  Well, yes, some certainly do but not nearly to the extent as those on the right. Libs don’t have to.  Liberalism, being the fact-based approach to understanding that it is, does not require smoke and mirrors to make a point.  On the other hand, wingnuts and teabaggers have been schooled on the art of debate by the likes of Limbaugh, Savage, O’Lielly and Beck while years of watching Fox News has literally turned their political brains into mush.  For these sorry saps, there is no distinction to be made between facts, lies and opinion.  It’s all become one big happy trail mix bag of ignorance and nuts.

Sometimes (but not often) I actually feel for them.