Years ago, I chose to do a paper in my pre-law Constitutional Law class on Vitale v. Engles in which the Supreme Court decided that it is unconstitutional for state officials to compose an official school prayer and encourage its recitation in public schools.
I always had an interest in Con Law and Vitale was the first case I wrote a paper on. The Establishment Clause was at issue in Vitale and is now at issue in the case that Rachel Maddow lays out for us in the below article:
The Rachel Maddow Blog
Three Indiana state senators, all Republicans, have introduced a bill that would allow schools to require the recitation of the Lord’s Prayer every morning, if they want to. Doug Masson writes on Masson’s Blog:
[T]his type of attempt at having government sanctioned prayer looks like nothing so much as the effort of a small but vocal subset of Christians to mark their territory. “This school is ours – we’ll tolerate you, if we must, but don’t forget who is running the show.”
The Lord’s Prayer bill says the point is to help “each student recognize the importance of spiritual development in establishing character and becoming a good citizen,” but you can get out of reciting it if you or your parents want.
The bill comes with a fiscal impact statement (pdf) so we can see the cost and revenue from introducing religion into the classroom. Expected expenditures are local, officials write: “There could be some minor impact in deciding the version of the Lord’s Prayer to use; however, it should be able to be done within existing resources.”
This is what theocracy looks like — using public resources to decide whether school kids should recite the King James Version or a new-fangled edition. The original Aramaic one is kind of nice, but it might a little cosmic-y, karm-y for whichever officials got the job of picking out a suitable prayer.
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Funny thing … I don’t need to make other people pray to my God in order to feel like a better believer.
I never cease to be amazed at the stupidity that passes for “Christian politics.”
I never cease to be amazed at the stupidity that passes for “Christian politics.”
Touche’!!
I’m a Christian but I also know that if I had been forced to honor Christianity in school by the government in any form, then I probably would have a problem with Chistianity instead.
The point of Christianity is that someone chooses it, not to have it chosen for them.
Free will is important and religious conservatives who in my own state of Oklahoma, pushed a law in 2008 that got passed to make sure that Sharia law would not be the law of the land, but yet some Christians would like to push Biblical laws, sometimes from the Old Testament or Leviticus law, onto all Americans.
What difference is there to have one religion shoved down our throats over another?
The good news is that we’re not alone.
I’m also a Christian, and theologically fairly conservative, at that. But I’m convinced that Jesus would oppose theocracy for the simple reason that that kind of power corrupts, and in turn poisons any religious teachings.
What difference is there to have one religion shoved down our throats over another?
Hi fidlerten, there is no difference, in my opinion.
Sometimes I see such a similarity between Christian “fundamentalists” in our country and say, The Taliban in Afghanistan.
Yet they shun Islam as an “evil” religion.
:::shakes head:::