Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Questions Whether Race is a factor in the debt ceiling talks…does she have a point?

Discussing race in this country is such a divisive topic that most people would rather deny its existence or at least sweep it under the rug and discuss it at a later date.  In my years online, I have learned to stay away from the topic in general discussion forums.  People will attack you as being a “militant”, “prejudice”, “racist” and “anti-white” or one is “playing the race card”.  Mostly because they don’t want to talk about it.

I suspect Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee will get the same response…(See related articles, below.)

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We have never seen the debt ceiling issue play out like this before. We have never seen or heard talk of the United States of America defaulting on its loans, but we also have never had a black president before. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee raised this issue on the floor of Congress. I have heard several people that I know ask this same question this week. So tell me what you think is  race a factor?

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11 responses to “Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee Questions Whether Race is a factor in the debt ceiling talks…does she have a point?

  1. All of the democrats voted against raising the debt ceiling in 2006. If every time some one has a difference in policy, you call racist, all you are doing is trying to shut the other side up. If it is racist to dislike the policy of someone with a different color skin, those who were all against Bush, must have been racist too.
    Thanks for the link, by the way.

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  2. I can’t speak for all the people that you have linked. However I know some of them and that does not answer what Sheila Jackson Lee has stated. If it is racist to oppose someone of a different color’s policy, does that make the members of the black caucus that voted as a block to oppose George W. Bush’s request to raise the debt ceiling? You are unfair if you include a whole group of people and assume that they are all white, and therefore race must be an issue when they get upset that someone continues to call them racist. This is a game that she has played over the years and frankly it gets tiresome. I would love to hear you give a reasonable reason as to why it is racist, but she doesn’t. She just says it is, therefore it must be.
    I’m sorry, that doesn’t cut it with me. I am tired of being called a racist every time I disagree with Barack Obama. I disagreed with George W. Bush too. I didn’t vote for the man. I think his actions were terrible for this country. I think we should be out of the wars we are in, instead of getting in more. I think we should quit bailing out banks and big corporations..
    It’s easy to say someone is a racist, it is harder to debate the differences that you have with their position.
    Sometimes you have to quit being the victim and simply stand for what you believe in! If Sheila Jackson Lee is happy with what Mr. Obama is doing, she should say so and explain her reasoning. She doesn’t, she just throws the race card out there and expects every body to shut up!!!

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    • Loopyloo…if you look at the title of the article, it simply asks a question. Your over-reaction is the same thing the author of the article questions. The related articles titles also confirm what I said about a Black person uttering the term race or racists. The vitriol and anger just oozes from the keyboards of so many people. The author of the article and Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee simply put the question out there…have they no right to do that? Your reaction speaks volumes…

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  3. Anybody, obviously has the right to ask if it is racist! The reaction and the anger at their doing so, is because for the last few years, every time someone has a disagreement with the policies of Mr. Obama, someone throws the race card into the mix. If you think that we are over reacting try stepping in our shoes and be called something so abhorrent every time you disagree. You assume that I am over reacting. I am, quite frankly angry and tired. Have you ever been abused? This is the same to me. I have lived and overcame being abused as a child and an adult. The way that a lot of people in the black community, not all by a long shot, and mostly those who have power, are using the racist word is a form of abuse.
    They have the right to say it all they want. I have the right to disagree with their implication. If you think the anger is bad, why do they keep stirring it up? Is it fair to always accuse people, or even say “hey maybe, it’s because he is black”?
    Tell me this, is Sheila Jackson Lee ignorant? Is Al Sharpton? Is Jesse Jackson Jr? If not, are they deliberately trying to provoke people? If so why? What do they gain? Either they want people to stop debating or they see some value in making their opponents angry? If they honestly believe that to oppose someones policies is because of their skin color, they should look to themselves and answer why they opposed Bush’s polices.
    Like I said, you assume my reaction is an over reaction. I disagree, I think my reaction is justified based on the dialogue that this country has and has not had for the last few years. Personally I am tired of always having the race card thrown out there. I would like some intelligent debate on the differences in policies, but we never get it.

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    • LongTimeLurker

      You have set up what is known as a “straw man” argument. You claim the the other side is making a weak argument (which it never made) and then you knock it down.

      No one is arguing that any and all criticism of President Obama is based solely on his race. But I think it’s disingenuous to compare the criticism of George Bush to attacks on Barack Obama. Did Bush have to publicly display his birth certificate just to prove he is an American?

      You say you were abused as a child and as an adult. If that’s true, you should understand how such abuse affects people’s perceptions. And it would seem that such understanding would make you less strident in your expressions of resentment over what you characterize as unfair and unwarranted accusations of racism.

      Whether you know it or not, a majority of “White” Americans suspect the same thing Sheila Jackson Lee expressed. They don’t like to talk about it because it’s embarrassing and shameful. That’s understandable, too. And I can be patient with it. It’s much harder, though, to be patient with expressions of “hurt feelings” and phony indignation over possible misperceptions by people whose point of view you do not care to even try to understand.

      (BTW, if I wanted to know whether a guy was abusive I would give more ear to the battered child or woman in the same room pointing to him than to the guy whistling and looking the other way.)

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  4. Anybody, obviously has the right to ask if it is racist! The reaction and the anger at their doing so, is because for the last few years, every time someone has a disagreement with the policies of Mr. Obama, someone throws the race card into the mix.

    Well loopy, I’ve read your comment. Trying to get through the thick helping of anger, emotion and your dislike for people bringing up the race card, I realized that YOU have in fact epitomized my opening statement about how difficult it is to bring up “race”. The reactions that I spoke of were reactions from the 90′s and early 2000′s. Barack Obama was not on the national radar at the time.

    Every argument that you laid out in your comment is described in my statement.

    Thank you for that. As for answering some of your questions, I feel as though I’m in a circular argument (debate) and cannot get my point across without you demeaning and debasing it as “playing the race card” or “angering whites” or like phrases. So I will end this “debate” by asking that we agree to disagree.

    There is one thing that stuck out though, and I need to address it:

    You assume that I am over reacting. I am, quite frankly angry and tired. Have you ever been abused? This is the same to me. I have lived and overcame being abused as a child and an adult. The way that a lot of people in the black community, not all by a long shot, and mostly those who have power, are using the racist word is a form of abuse.

    Loopy, in your comments, I noticed that you feel victimized and by your own words, abused by people (Blacks in particular) using the term “racist”. Might I just remind you that in terms of a history of abuse, I think Blacks and Jews kinda corner the market. But I don’t like playing the victim so I will NOT go into the recorded history of abuse and rape and murder that my ancestors went through, because you see, Loopy, it does no good to complain. One just has to move on and learn the lesson of each of life’s little foibles.

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  5. Well your argument if both right and wrong, but it truly doesn’t matter. I want to apologize because you are right, I did over react. I am sorry that I snapped at you and was hostile in my tone. God bless you and have a great day.

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    • Well your argument if both right and wrong, but it truly doesn’t matter. I want to apologize because you are right, I did over react. I am sorry that I snapped at you and was hostile in my tone. God bless you and have a great day.

      Thank you Loopyloo, I hope you continue to visit this site. Your input will always be welcomed.

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  6. sfcmac

    She’s got a “point”, alright. On top of her head.

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