Mario Piperni: Did Someone Say Lame Duck?

Mario Piperni

Underestimating this President might be the most serious mistake one can make.  After getting a tax bill through Congress (imperfect as it was), [yesterday] he signed a bill repealing Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell – a move which a mere two weeks ago seemed near impossible. 

It appears that this not-so-lame lame duck session will end up being one of the most productive in history.  A measure funding health care for 9/11 first responders as well as ratification of START are set to pass Congress before Christmas.  Good stuff.

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  1. Well, Obama had little or nothing to do with any of the bills in question, beyond signing them when they hit his desk, with the exception of the tax bill which few seem to care for and many plan to punish Obama for…

    It’s also very telling that little or nothing got done in Congress until AFTER Americans kicked out the majority of Dems up for re-election and placed the GOP back into power. Before that, the Dems managed little to nothing.

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  2. Well Jonolan, you are entitled to your own opinion, but not your own facts, as Lawrence O’Donnell says.

    Your facts are totally wrong. Obama was most definately involved in all the bills that got passed this past week.

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  3. Not as far as I can see or that has been reported – with the obvious exception of the tax bill. He seems to have stayed out of it completely or almost completely.

    If I’m wrong, cite a source or two to prove it. I’m hardly going to take you or anyone like you at your word without such proof. You and yours are, after all, genetically and sub-culturally inclined to support Obama without need for any proof beyond his race – as your previous racist posts have evidenced.

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  4. Oh poor jonolon, some bad “negro” made you upset so you bring your tired ass over to my blog to pick on a poor little ol’ defenseless “negro” woman.

    First of all, if you’re looking for someone to be your “whipping boy/girl” you came to the wrong place.

    Secondly, based on your statement above, it doesn’t matter what I show you as proof that Obama had a hand in every legislation that passed through both houses. (Actually, most Presidents and VPs are in the background gathering committments from people on both sides of the aisle. It’s a part of something called “governing”. Something your boy George Bush never did in his eight years in office.)

    When Obama is wrong on any number of issues, I am as voiceferous as anybody and my posts will show that.

    You and yours are, after all, genetically and sub-culturally inclined to support Obama without need for any proof beyond his race – as your previous racist posts have evidenced.

    What a loser, regurgitating your heroes’ disgusting vile hate and thinking you are “the man” for giving me a “piece of your mind”. Well, I can’t find that microsopic piece of “mind” you have supposedly given me, but I will say this:

    I will not block you because I like archiving the hateful comments as well as the reasonable and sensible ones.

    It shows my readers and the rest of the world what kind of slimy scum troll the internet looking for a fight under the cover of anonimity.

    Oh and one last thing, when you mess with THIS Black woman, she will not cower in a corner in fear. In other words, DON’T TREAD ON ME ASSHOLE!

    Oh, and Merry Christmas.

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  5. kstreet:

    Excellent response. I hope, and expect, really, that in TFC’s free marketplace of viewpoints many more people will choose and share yours than jonolon’s.

    In fact, I truly believe the RepubTea Party “jumped the shark” with the November elections. Already, I sense some buyers’ remorse. With all their nastiness readily apparent objecting to DADT, stalling extension of unemployment benefits, fighting health care (even for the 911 responders), shooting elk and banging flounder for fun, not to mention their weird crying spells, and fond memories of the Old South, the RepubTea Party’s stock is going nowhere but down from here. If the Democrats simply remain emotionally stable, rational, and reasonably adult they will win by another landslide come 2012.

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  6. If the Democrats simply remain emotionally stable, rational, and reasonably adult they will win by another landslide come 2012

    LTL, I have no doubt that the Dems will prevail in 2012. Meaness and nasty attitudes toward the middle class (what’s left of it) will be the GOP’s “waterloo”. LOL

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  7. Firstly, I’d suggest that you get over yourself; like me, you’re largely meaningless.

    Secondly, there’s not a living Negro who has upset me enough to get me to drag my tired ass – you got that right – anywhere, with possible exception of Sharpton and it’s not worth the paperwork to deal with him unless he blocks my route to work again.

    Thirdly, steeped as you obviously are in hatred of Whites- though likely not in hatred of our money if you can get it, I’ll doubt you’ll believe this but sources or citations do have the capability of changing my mind on an issue, irrespective of the bias of those who provide them (though the bias of the source will effect that).

    I might believe you about the POTUS quietly gathering support and “governing” if we were talking about Bush. I’d certainly believe it about Clinton or any POTUS before him. I don’t believe it about Obama.

    One, Obama is far too fond of the stage and the sound of his voice to quietly do anything. Two, we now live in a 24/7 “news” environment with anything and everything that the POTUS and/or Congress does being “newsworthy.”

    Even if Obama had wanted to do things behind the scenes – a good plan considering his unpopularity and the Liberals’ hatred of compromise – I doubt that it would be possible for him to do so.

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  8. One of the most publicly announced criticism’s of Obama’s Tax Relief/Unemployment Extension Agreement and Obama, generally, recently was that he negotiated outcomes UNILATERALLY with Mitch McConnell, leaving the rest of the legislative branch to climb on board.

    Jonolon needs to pay attention. He is obviously too preoccupied and befogged by his own racial theories, insecurities and grievances. Ultimately, though, Jonolon and his ilk are more of a problem for the RepubTeas than for the Democrats.

    So, Jonolon, keep on spewing.

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  9. Here’s a fact. This is the last of the series of e-mails I received:

    Tomorrow, the Senate may cast final votes on the DREAM Act and “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

    Both bills are key priorities for President Obama — and since both have already passed the House, these votes will determine whether they become law. If we don’t seize this chance, there’s no telling when we might have this opportunity again.

    We can’t waste any time — we need to make our voices heard today.

    Can you take three minutes and call right now? Voice your support for both the passage of the DREAM Act and the repeal of “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.”

    Call Senator Brown at (202) 224-4543 — and then let us know what you heard.

    “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” weakens our national security and violates the fundamental American principles of fairness and equality.

    And the DREAM Act will provide undocumented youth with a path to citizenship through military service or higher education — rewarding hard work and strengthening our country.

    A vote could happen on each of these bills as early as tomorrow — so please take three minutes and call Senator Brown at (202) 224-4543.

    And to make sure we know who’s saying what, can you please let us know what you were told?

    http://my.barackobama.com/SenateCalls

    Thanks,

    Mitch

    Mitch Stewart
    Director
    Organizing for America

    ——————————————————————————

    I was urged and followed through many times on both these issues. Strangely enough, I heard that Obama personally called and pushed for passage of the START treaty, but I don’t think I ever got an e-mail about contacting my Senator about that one. Now…obviously, Senator Kerry was THE MAN when it came to that so I didn’t need to be told to contact him, but no prodding to contact Senator Brown, though they may have been fairly confident about him.

    I receive organizing phone calls, texts, and e-mails from OFA all the time about getting involved. This used to be barackobama.com and I still have it bookmarked as such.

    Now…if the fact you want is who he called and what he actually did behind the scenes, we might have to wait for Julian Assange…LOL.

    And KStreet….I know and you know that I (the middle aged White lady) turned you into an Obama supporter from a Clinton supporter so THAT IS ANOTHER FACT.

    Love you K….we will MEET IN DC some day….I dream…

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    1. And KStreet….I know and you know that I (the middle aged White lady) turned you into an Obama supporter from a Clinton supporter so THAT IS ANOTHER FACT.

      Hi Demo! Yes, you did! But once again, people like jonolan have no use for TRUTH, they’d rather live in their own distorted version of reality.

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  10. LongTimeLurker,

    Immaterial to my point, since I stated that the Tax Bill was an exception. I cared little about how it got negotiated and am ambivalent about its contents.

    democratista,

    Thank you for providing something in the way of countering facts.

    I’m unsure if having one’s PR activists email people asking them to call officials is truly being involved in getting negotiations through Congress, but it’s still more than has been reported by the media (for or against).

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      1. I can’t admit what isn’t true, no matter how much that would fit with your viewpoint.

        democratista made a valid argument and said as much. Her and I could argue the worth of stratagem vs. Obama either using the “bully pulpit” or getting more directly involved in the negotiations, but I did not dispute that it showed action on his part.

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  11. jonolan, Democratista also said this:

    And KStreet….I know and you know that I (the middle aged White lady) turned you into an Obama supporter from a Clinton supporter so THAT IS ANOTHER FACT.

    I noticed that you ignored that fact because it nullifies your initial premise (spelled ASSumption) about me:

    You: You and yours are, after all, genetically and sub-culturally inclined to support Obama without need for any proof beyond his race – as your previous racist posts have evidenced.

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    1. Too many threaded / nested comments – I missed that.rather than ignored it. Sorry.

      But I made no assumption about you. I merely stated that you had to supply sources if you wanted me to believe your assertion due to the proclivities of your race in this matter.

      Hence it didn’t “nullify” anything.

      I’m perfectly willing to read and weigh facts, as I’m perfectly willing to have it proven to me that someone isn’t part of the majority of their culture. I do, however, require those fact if I’m to lend credence to the assertions of anyone whose race or subculture has “alternative” reasons for promulgating an idea or belief.

      But there’s little point in continuing this. You don;t have anything to say to support your position and your fans – Democratista being an exception – certainly have shown no aptitude for adding anything of worth to the argument.

      I’m leaving now. Insult me as your leisure.

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    2. Glad to see your exercise in machismo has come to an end.

      There is/was no way that I would have presented the quite visible facts that you demanded because your initial comment, which was to attack me and those who might look or sound like me, from an extremely personal basis.

      Purely as human nature (not racial, cultural or tribal instincts as you seem to ASSume,) one first and foremost addresses the attacks on one’s character. I chose the “human nature route” to respond to your racist and derogatory hyperbole about “negros” voting for Obama because he’s a “negro”.

      You will not be missed.

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  12. One last thought, jonolan…

    You said: But I made no assumption about you. I merely stated that you had to supply sources if you wanted me to believe your assertion due to the proclivities of your race in this matter

    You made no assumption about me:

    You and yours are, after all, genetically and sub-culturally inclined to support Obama without need for any proof beyond his race – as your previous racist posts have evidenced.

    BTW, I am certain that your statement cannot be supported by facts. On the contrary, the post I submitted was a verbatim post off of Mario Piperni’s blog. I usually write a pre-statement about what I am reporting, but chose not to at that time.

    My question is, why didn’t you approach Piperni with your questions?

    Secondly, there are links that I posted under “related stories”, all which actually state the facts in each story. The same “facts” that you say you are looking for.

    No, jonolan, your initial premise was to come on my blog and try to “bust my bubble”. Sorry, didn’t work (actually can never work from the likes of you.) Your intent was nefarious and frankly quite annoying. I can deal with annoying in lighthearted responses.

    “Nefarious” on the otherhand is a bit more serious. Trolling my blog to get your racist jollies off deserved the responses that you got.

    Now get off of my gottdamn lawn and stay the hell outta MY BACKYARD!

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